Beckenham Town 1-1 Erith Town - If I feel like I'm not doing the correct job and it needs a new voice, I'll happily step down, says Dockers' boss Adam Woodward, while Del Oldfield says he's "all for it" if Beckenham want to bring another manager in

Beckenham Town 1 – 1 Erith Town
Location	Eden Park Avenue, Beckenham, Kent BR3 3JL
Kickoff	02/12/2025 19:45

BECKENHAM TOWN  1-1  ERITH TOWN
Isthmian League South East Division
Tuesday 2 December 2025
Stephen McCartney reports from Eden Park Avenue

BECKENHAM TOWN manager Del Oldfield – and Erith Town boss Adam Woodward – have both offered to step down from their roles if someone else can keep their cash-strapped clubs in the Isthmian League after failing to win this relegation scrap.

Beckenham Town remain deep in relegation trouble in the Isthmian League South East Division, having picked up 10 points (two wins, four draws and 13 defeats) from their 19 games.

Erith Town, meanwhile, leapfrogged over Ashford United into seventeenth-place (bottom six), having collected 20 points (four wins, eight draws and nine defeats) at the halfway point of their second-campaign in the eighth-tier.

The heavens opened at Eden Park Avenue an hour before the scheduled kick-off and made conditions difficult for both sides but this was two points dropped for Oldfield’s men, who took the lead through Jack Holland’s second goal of the season, heading in a corner-kick in the 31^st minute.

Referee Toby Carlisle sent-off Erith Town attacking midfielder, Tom O’Connor, on the stroke of half-time for violent conduct before the Dockers grabbed an equaliser through composed centre-half, Dexter Peter, 29, who tapped in his third goal of the season, six minutes into the second half.

Beckenham Town’s nineteen-year-old goalkeeper James Batt was also sent off for violent conduct 42 seconds after being at fault for the Dockers’ set-piece equaliser and centre-half Will Grieveson bravely took the gloves for the remainder of this hard-fought draw.

“How do I sum it up?  It wasn’t the prettiest of games, was it?” admitted Oldfield, who has won two, drawn one and lost nine of his 12 games in charge since coming out of retirement to manage the club for a second time.

“I think for both teams it was try not to lose.  I think we were in control for large parts of the game until our sending off.  Even before their sending off I thought we were in control for a large part of the game.

“I think if we don’t make that silly error in judgement and we have a man sent off, I think we go on and win the game but fair play, Erith didn’t stop, they kept battling, took their chance when it came and in the end it just became a bit of a slug-fest, didn’t it, between both teams.

“It wasn’t pretty, It was a proper old-fashioned, the pitch was boggy, wet, really soggy in areas, so yes I don’t think there was a lot of a chance for teams to play nice football but listen I think a point is fair on reflection but we certainly feel we could’ve got more.”

Erith Town boss Adam Woodward, who was serving the last of his two-match touchline ban, admitted: “Poor, a horrible game of football, bad conditions but it’s a point, it’s another one on the board.

“It was tough footing; players were getting their foot stuck in the game. I think one of their players came off injured at the end (left-wing-back Makhaya James) because he got his foot stuck in the ground after a tackle but look, I’ve been in many games where things happen and they change but yes, it is what it is.

“It was one of those nights where we had some chances and obviously we just wasn’t clinical enough in front of goal, in my opinion.

“I felt if you looked at the warm-up, the ball wasn’t bouncing. I felt the referee sort of set himself up for a difficult night with tackles, with the conditions and things like that.”

The crowd of 175 witnessed a frenetic game between a Beckenham Town side that came into the derby having lost their last seven games and a Dockers’ side that haven’t won in their last four league outings.  Add to that the wet weather and difficult bounce, this game was never going to be an epic, as both sides played with three at the back and wing-backs and packed midfield.

Erith Town created the first opening with 11 minutes and 40 seconds on the clock when O’Connor switched the ball from right to left and winger Oliver Milton cut onto his right-foot and arrowed his shot over the top of the far post from 25-yards.

Erith Town created their second chance (15:31) when left-winger Andrew Dythe launched a long throw from the left, the ball was half-cleared out to Aaron Jeffery and the holding midfielder knocked his free header across the keeper and past the far post from 12-yards.

The Dockers kept knocking on the door and Dythe cut in from the left-channel and put in a low cross, which fell to the unmarked Oluwadamilola Olusesi, who drilled a low left-footed drive from 30-yards, which was comfortably gathered by Batt.

“I’ve got to be honest, I thought James was very comfortable all night,” said Oldfield.

“I can’t blame anyone for the corners or the kick-ins.  The pitch was so soft, the footing was so hard, so I’m not going to start blaming people for mistakes and this, that and the other because that’s just the consequence of the wet pitch.”

Beckenham Town produced a sweeping move (20:25) on the counter-attack when right-wing-back Joe Chalker released winger Tyler Anderson, who cut inside close to the right-hand corner of the box before playing the ball back inside to Chalker and the former Docker cracked a first-time right-footed drive towards the bottom far corner from 20-yards, forcing visiting keeper Harrison Firth to dive low to his right to use a strong right hand to push towards safety.

“Like I said, that was one of the good moves I was talking about,” said Oldfield.

“Something we said to Joe Chalker at half-time is about getting higher up the pitch because he’s got a lovely strike on him and we’re trying to encourage him to get forward more.

“I know what it felt like at times, certainly in the first half, that he was being a bit too negative. I say negative, he was being far too defensive. We wanted him higher up the pitch because that’s what he can do.”

Woodward, a former goalkeeper himself, added: “Ex Docker – good save by Harrison, pushed it away well in difficult conditions and it is difficult conditions for goalkeeper’s tonight.”

Chalker released Mudiago Wanogho (who played on the right-hand side of the home side’s three centre-halves) on the overlap and his low cross from within the channel was spilt at the near-post by Firth, who gathered at the second attempt with Beckenham striker George Porter ready to pounce.

Beckenham Town – who dominated the corner count by eight-to-two – opened the scoring with 30 minutes and 12 seconds on the clock, following their second flag-kick of the night.

The impressive Freddie Nyhus swung in an excellent corner with his left foot from the right towards the back post where Holland had the simplest of task to head down and into the net from one-yard.

“It’s a corner routine that we’ve been working on. We’ve been persisting on and that’s the first time that we’ve got a bit of joy out of it, so pleased with that,” said Oldfield, who was asked what the 33-year-old brings to the party.

“Experience. Leadership. Good quality as well.  I think Jack will tell you himself he never had a great start to the season but were certainly back to seeing the Jack Holland that we had for the majority of last season.”

Woodward added: “No he couldn’t (miss from a yard out).  Looking at the Beckenham Twitter feed, I think it went straight in, if I’m honest.  We haven’t defended that well but it was a good delivery.”

Both managers were asked about Erith Town’s red-card – with 44:59 on the clock – when O’Connor was spotted by referee Toby Carlisle for an off-the-ball incident on Beckenham’s central midfielder Harry Gamble, just before the Dockers were going to launch a throw into a crowd of players outside the Becks’ penalty area.

“I’ll be honest, I didn’t see it. I had to ask what happened because Harry was holding his face,” said Oldfield.

“From what I’ve heard and this is only what I’ve heard – I’ll need to watch it back – is that Harry had a little tug and Tom had a tug back and just threw his arm out and I think when you do that, you’re asking for trouble.

“But like I say, I never saw it, so I don’t really know. I think when I watch it back, I’ll have a clearer view of what happened.”

Arsene Wenger, sorry, Woodward replied: “I haven’t seen it, so I can’t comment, so I’ll look it back on the veo and if I’m right, I’ll send it to him.

“I haven’t seen it. I’m just going off player reaction. I think it was six of one, half-a-dozen of the other to be honest but like I said, I haven’t seen it and when I do see it, I’ll have an opinion on it.

“The referee made the decision, it’s up to him.  What I will say is both red cards tonight were for violent conduct – neither physio came on, so if that was that violent, I’d assume the physio would be on but no. It is what it is. Until I see the incident, I can’t comment.”

Both under pressure managers were asked their thoughts at the interval.

Oldfield said: “Keep going! Especially when they were a man down. It was like we didn’t need to change anything. We were comfortable in what we were doing. We knew we were going to have to make a couple of substitutions, just down to fatigue and obviously the pitch, which weren’t a problem but then obviously the sending off had to change our thinking a little bit.”

Woodward added: “Just keep doing what you’re doing, you’ll get a chance. I did think that with the conditions the game would be evened up and I felt it was evened up, so yes we knew we had to go out there and we knew if we carried on pushing, we’d get a goal.”

Woodward decided to put Milton up front with Destiny Oladipo, who acted as a lone striker during the first-half,  but Beckenham Town will see this as two-points dropped.

Porter slid the ball to Nyhus, who whipped in a low cross from within the left-channel before Anderson set the ball to the unmarked Chalker, who scooped his right-footed shot over the crossbar in a good position inside the Dockers box, just 141 seconds into the second half.

“Again, like the first half, that is why we tell Joe to get higher up the pitch because he can affect the game both defensively and offensively but he’s certainly got a very good offensive side to his game and we need to encourage him to do that more,” explained Oldfield, who certainly got a tune out of his players tonight.

Beckenham Town should have doubled their lead (5:38) on the counter-attack when Tom Hever released Nyhus down the left and the winger cut inside Jerome Jayaguru (who plays in the heart of the Dockers’ three centre-halves), before cutting the ball on his left-foot to drill his low shot across the keeper and flashing past the far post.

“If I’m honest, it’s one of them in that scenario where I wished he had hit the target,” said Oldfield.

“I’d rather him hit the target there and we get the seconds but just before that we were actually screaming as Freddie shot, we were saying ‘get on the far post, get on the far post,’ because it’s something we’ve been working on with Freddie on not cutting back so much and maybe delivering the ball earlier and he was brilliant tonight again to be fair.”

Erith Town grabbed their equaliser with six minutes and 54 seconds, following a set-piece of their own.

Olusesi drilled a left-footed free-kick from the left into the box and it sailed over the Beckenham back-line and should have been dealt with by Batt, who failed to gather and allowed Oladipo to pounce and flash a low cross along the goal-line from close to the right (far) post and Peter capped an impressive display by tapping the ball over the line with his left-foot from one-yard.

“It was a good finish, Dexter obviously popping up and I felt after that it went a little bit basketball match-esque,” admitted Woodward, who was asked what the former VCD Athletic centre-half brings to the party.

“He’s a good leader, a good organiser, yes, he’s very good. He’s a very good centre-half. He’s good for the boys. I think JJ (Jayaguru) has come on leaps and bounds with him next to him.”

The referee pulled out a red card (7:36) from his pocket and sent-off the Beckenham Town goalkeeper for an incident with Oladipo, who was cautioned.

Oldfield admitted: “I’m disappointed with our defending there as a team. I think I’m only going on what I’ve heard. I think it’s gone over Jack’s head. I think there’s been information to see the ball out and Mudi (Wanogho) tried to see the ball out and hasn’t successfully done it.

“For me, I think in our box we don’t see anything out. We deal with the ball and again it’s one small detail but it’s another small detail that’s lead to an equaliser that hasn’t given us three points.”

Oldfield admitted Batt cost his side three valuable points for his petulance in trying to grab the ball off (and allegedly striking) Oladipo in the aftermath of the equaliser.

“I don’t think he needs to go and get involved,” admitted Oldfield.

“They’ve just equalised, there is no rush to get the ball back in my opinion. I think he’s made a cataclysmic error in judgement. He doesn’t need to go and get involved with a group of players.  I don’t know what he was playing at. I’m actually very annoyed at him and I told him that after the game.

“At this level of football – and I’m a fine one to talk – but you have to control your emotions because it can hurt you and again just one fatal error in judgement and we haven’t won the game.”

It's very rare for club’s at this level to carry a substitute goalkeeper.  Oldfield was full of praise for centre-half Grieveson for donning the green jersey and gloves to play in goal for the rest of the game.

“Do you know what, we had no idea (who was going to go in goal).  Well, Harry Gamble is normally our player for going in goal but he’s still coming back from injury. He can only play a certain amount of time and we knew he had to come off so we needed someone to put their hand up and Will did.

“I can’t knock him. A bit unconventional at times but kept the ball out of the net.  What can you say when someone actually puts their hand up and go in goal? You can’t be disappointed with him in any way and more to the point I was very pleased with him. He stood up and made it count and done a good job for the team so well done him.”

Woodward was also asked about the red card for the Beckenham keeper.

“Again, I haven’t seen it, so I can’t comment on it. I don’t think the goalkeeper needs to get involved in that, so he’ll learn from that but I didn’t see it, so I can’t comment.”

Beckenham Town were cursing their bad luck in the 66^th minute when a free header from 15-yards looped against the top of the crossbar and went over for a goal-kick.

Chalker’s right-footed free-kick some 35-yards from goal was met by Holland’s back-flicked header, which looped over the keeper and didn’t go in – as teams at the wrong end of the table just don’t get lady luck on their side.

Oldfield added: “Exactly that and that’s exactly what we keep saying. We haven’t had a lot of luck. I’m not saying we’ve played particularly great a lot of the time but we haven’t had a lot of luck and it’s got to turn at some point.”

Woodward added: “Disappointed no one was marking him but I felt it was always rising.”

Erith Town’s 22-year-old goalkeeper was called into action in the final 20 minutes to frustrate the home side.

Porter stabbed the ball back out to an advanced Chalker, who cracked a right-footed rasping drive towards goal, which was palmed over by Firth, to his left.

“Again, Joe Chalker – where we’ve been asking him to be affecting the game in the final third and yet another good move. Although it wasn’t the pitch for free-flowing nice football, I felt like we’ve done that in patches, got in some good areas,” added Oldfield.

Woodward simply added: “Harrison had a good night, difficult conditions for a goalkeeper but he done really well.”

Erith Town then went direct and created a trio of chances to ease their relegation worries.

Peter launched a long ball into the left-channel and substitute attacked Albie O’Mara-Knapp – who was playing his last game for the club while on loan from Isthmian League Premier Division side Dartford – cut into the box and grazed the foot of the near-post from a tight angle.

Peter launched a left-footed free-kick from just over the half-way line and the ball was cleared out to right-back Ethan Kevill, who cracked a first-time left-footed drive towards the left-hand corner from 25-yards, which was comfortably caught in Grieveson’s midriff (29:28).

Woodward said: “We had a couple, two or three chances at him (Grieveson) that went straight down his throat, which maybe is disappointing but like I said I’ve played in games where those instances you are going to far to get a goal and then you concede and lose 2-1.

“Listen, I made a decision, last four or five minutes, maybe just to take a draw, wipe our mouths and go again.

“I’m not happy with a point, I wanted three. I wanted three on Saturday but in the grand scheme of things, the management have done a tremendous job.

“I haven’t been in the dug-out for the last two games because of suspension, so I need to learn from that. It was my fault. I’ve let the team down there but listen, a point’s a point. It’s another one on the board.”

Oldfield added: “At the end, it literally just became, it was like a Rocky film in the end, slug-fest, like literally going punch-for-punch, both teams were going for is, which is good to see, I suppose.

“But I think both teams showed an element of control and defending. Listen, if we had 11 on the pitch, certainly for us, I feel like we go on and win the game but fair play to Erith, they’ve done their bit and played their part in what was a well-battled derby.”

Keville then split open the Beckenham defence to play in O’Mara-Knapp but Grieveson rushed off his line to deal with the threat.

Beckenham Town were also knocking on the door in search of a vital victory late on.

Substitute left-winger Mark Marshall was inside the Beckenham half and hit a diagonal pass to release the threatening Nyhus, who cut onto his left foot and his low shot was held by Firth, low to his right to prevent the ball nestling into the bottom corner (39:08).

Erith Town almost snatched the victory (48:43) when substitute Emmanuel Oluwasemo played a low ball in from within the left channel and the ball came out to Kevill, whose right-footed drive from 20-yards was kicked away by Grieveson’s right-boot, to prevent the ball nestling inside the bottom left-hand corner.

The League table does not make very good reading for both Beckenham Town and Erith Town, who have a battle on their hands to avoid relegation.

East Grinstead Town are rooted to the foot of the table, having picked up only three points from their 19 league games.

Beckenham Town remain second-from-bottom with 10 points from 19 games and are joined in the relegation zone by VCD Athletic (16 points from 19 games) and Sevenoaks Town (19 points from 20 games).

Ashford United (19 points from 19 games), Erith Town (20 points from 21 games), Hassocks (22 points from 20 games) and Hastings United (22 points from 20 games) also make up the bottom eight.

Oldfield takes his side to Ashford United on Saturday.  Chairman Lloyd Hume stepped down as manager on Saturday following their 1-1 draw at home to Sheppey United and (centre-half) Craig Stone, 36, has taken the managerial reigns.
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“If we can put in any sort of display like we did there last season, we’ll be alright,” said Oldfield.

“But listen, they’ve got their own problems,. It’s not for me to go in the why and how’s of Ashford and what they’re doing and to be honest with you, my main concern is here. I’m not interested in what’s going on outside this club at the moment. We’ll just attack the game the best way we can and hope for a positive result.”

When asked about their League position, the Beckenham Town manager said: “It’s not good, it’s not great. Listen, I have to, everyone involved in and around the club knows why we’re kind of where we are, why things are happening and this, that and the other.

“It can’t be helped. It’s out of our control. It’s out of everyone’s control. I think the main thing, that I think everyone has to remember in football, it’s not always about money and I think club’s have to be sustainable and this is how our club is having to be at this moment in time.

“Yes, it’s hurting us with some of our performances, maybe not the performances but certainly some of the results but the main thing is that we have a football club at the end of the season, so that’s where we are.

“We can’t compete (with the money floating about in our League).  It’s as simple as that. At this moment in time we can’t and our club, as it is, we have to remain sustainable.

“We can’t compete with teams that have got £350 players’ sitting on their bench – we can’t do it.  There’s certain clubs in this League that are throwing £300 at people like they’re going out of fashion, fair play to them.

“We can’t compete financially with teams in this League, so what we have to do is we have to try to invest in a group of players’ that hope our coaching shines through at some point.

“I think we turn it around by keep doing what we’re doing, believing in what we’re doing. Like I said, keep trying to get the message across but we also do need a little bit of luck along the way and we need to stop the silly mistakes – that’s how we turn it around.”

When asked whether he can bring in fresh blood – tonight’s performance showed glimpses that Beckenham Town can get themselves out of this mess – Oldfield replied, “We can. We’re looking at ways to do that, again, its’ not as easy as just throwing money at it for us.  Ther are certain scenarios that are being put to me with regards to bringing new players in. They’ve also got to be the right players.  They can’t just be anyone. We’ve got a group of very honest boys out there so it’s not going to be easy to just bring anyone in.

“I want our fans to stick with us. I mean they do stick with us to be fair. Listen, everyone’s got an opinion. I think even the fans here know why we’re in the situation we’re in. Listen, I get it. It’s hard to keep coming when your teams near the bottom and it looks like there’s no positive thing in sight.

“But we’ve got a good set of fans here and they are with us. They are behind us. They understand what’s going on but naturally they’re frustrated and I get that.”

Woodward, meanwhile, welcomes Steve King’s tenth-placed Deal Town (10 wins, one draw and nine defeats) to Bayliss Avenue on Saturday.

“Not happy, disappointed. I felt we are letting ourselves down a little bit. It has been mentioned,” admitted Woodward, when asked about his side being so close to the relegation zone.

“But it’s a difficult League, it’s a very difficult League and we’ve had a lot of set-backs this year. Obviously, losing our captain, Harry Taylor to an ankle ligament (injury) and he’ll be back after Christmas.

“We’ve lost Tom Ash, who was an ever-present player for us to an ACL. Ross Craig to an ACL and now we’ve just found out we’ve lost Jacob Connor to an ACL, so we’ve not had the best of luck with injuries.

“Albie O’Mara-Knapp will now be recalled by Dartford tonight. I’ve had that phone call with Ady (Pennock, Dartford manager) today, so look, we know what we are. We know where we are as a team.

“There’s been a lot of change around the club as well. We’ve had a little bit of a change upstairs. Boylie (Steve O’Boyle) has stepped down from his (chairman) role, which he had his reasons that he had, but we now just need to regroup as a club, get to Christmas where we’ve got a little bit of a break.”

It's very unusual for both managers to offer to step down from their roles during the post-match press conference – which was held inside an empty, warm and inviting boardroom after a match on a grim December Tuesday night weather wise.

Oldfield said: “Am I under pressure? No, none at all, none at all.

“I’ve even said to them, if you’ve got another idea, then I’m all for this club. If they have another idea of how they might, if they want to bring another manager in, or another coach, or this, that and the other, I’m all for it.

“If it means a positive reaction to this club, you’re not going to get any complaint with me - but the club seem very happy with what I’m doing and how I’m doing it and that’s how it stands at the moment.“

Woodward admitted he too is under pressure at the wrong end of the table.

“This isn’t pressure, I do this for enjoyment. My wife at home with two kids under three is under pressure because I’m out of the house doing football but am I under pressure? You could probably say that. Yes, you probably can if you’re looking at it.

“But Steve, If I was to say to you four or five years’ ago, Erith Town would be in the Isthmian League, what would you say?  Do you think we’re punching about our weight? That’s a question for you. Are we punching about our weight?

“I’m asking you the question. What do you think? Do you think if Erith Town finish (where we are now), is it a good season for Erith Town?

“I’m asking, what do you think? If you shut the season up now and we finish above Ashford, is that a good result?”

My reply was Crowborough Athletic (managed by Sean Muggeridge, who works on a shoestring budget) and Erith Town and Beckenham Town staying in the division with low budgets would be good outcomes for all three clubs.

Woodward added: “This is what people need to get, we’re little old Erith Town and if you look at the sides of the clubs in that League, that’s my opinion on it.

“Look, people can have their opinions. Am I under pressure? Most probably am. Ok and I don’t hide from that fact. I’m not silly enough to understand that but I have a good relationship with the chairman and the owner Mark Deveney, fantastic relationship with him and I’m quite open.

“If I feel like I’m not doing the correct job and it needs a new voice, I’ll happily step down, there’s no issues. I’ve been here long enough to understand that.

“I want what’s best for the football club. This is not a football club that I take lightly. I live, breath and die Erith Town Football Club. I protect this football club and when I feel like I can’t do any more, I’ll quite happily step aside and allow somebody else to do it.

“When I came in with Mark (Deveney) seven or eight years ago, Erith Town were nearly going out of business. We had no youth teams, we were playing at VCD, had finished (near the bottom of the Southern Counties East Football League every season) and we managed to get promoted under the stewardship of Mark and people behind the scenes, winning three trophies in one year.

“We got Erith Town out of the SCEFL, which by the way some successful managers in the game, couldn’t do and we’ve managed to do that. Some people I really, really respect as well.

“If we’re now seventeenth in the Isthmian League and I’m under pressure, then it is what it is. I’ll accept that but from where we’ve come from as a club, we’ve now got 20-odd youth teams and we’ve just signed a 10-year lease for a ground for our youth teams and we’ve got a nice big long lease for the ground we’re t now.

“There’s a lot of teams who would like to be in our position."

Woodward added: “Deal is going to be tough, they’re doing really well. Listen, I love Kingy, we’ve had some great battles in the SCEFL. We both love getting on at each other for 90 minutes and then we shake hands at the end and have a chat in the bar. I full respect him. I fully respect Deal.

“It will be a tough game but every game in this League is tough.

“We’d love to, we’d love to (be able to bring in new players). It is what it is. You’ve got teams buying players in our League now but we’re Erith Town. We know where we’re at. We know what we are.

“Having Harry Taylor back after Christmas, probably January-February time will be like having a new signing.

“Mal Turner is a massive, big miss for us with injury, but we’ll step into Saturday, just like any other game.”

Beckenham Town: James Batt, Joe Chalker (Casey Dudley 83), Makhaya James, Jack Holland, Will Grieveson, Mudiago Wanogho, Freddie Nyhus, Tom Hever, George Porter (Mark Marshall 76), Harry Gamble (Abbas Agoro 54, Henry Douglas 80)), Tyler Anderson (Shaquille St Louie-Gordon 71).

Goal: Jack Holland 31

Sent off:  James Batt 52

Erith Town: Harrison Firth, Ethan Kevill, Anthony Musoke, Oluwadamilola Olusei, Jerome Jayaguru, Dexter Peter, Andrew Dythe, Aaron Jeffery (Emmanuel Oluwasemo 80), Destiny Oladipo, Tom O’Connor, Oliver Milton (Albie O’Mara-Knapp 67).
Subs: Bertie Valler, Mecca Maxime-Samuels, Calum McGeehan

Goal: Dexter Peter 51

Booked: Oluwadamilola Olusesi 38, Destiny Oladipo 52, Dexter Peter 60, Jerome Jayaguru 65, Aaron Jeffery 77

Sent Off: Tom O’Connor 45

Attendance: 175
Referee: Mr Toby Carlisle
Assistants: Mr Christopher Gustafsson & Mr Bogdan Caraghin